East Village, N.Y.
Spoons: I'm from Little Five Points in Atlanta.
BW: No shit? I grew up close to there.
Spoons: Yeah, I remember when I was a little kid, I was the only one allowed in the Euclid Yacht Club (Bar). It was the Outlaw's clubhouse basically.
One day we were sitting in my dad's truck talking to his friend Johnny close to the train tracks in Little Five Points. I looked up and there were a bunch of train hoppers jumping out of a train. I asked what they were doing and Johnny said, "Those are hobos. Those are the mother fuckers that are living real." I was about 4 at the time. Ever since then I wanted to hop trains.
BW: What was the hardest part about growing up?
Spoons: Nothing. Nothing. My childhood was great. I mean my mother got me into some really weird situations but I just rolled with it.
But, I'll get real with it... My mom was the biggest influence in my life. She taught me how to be completely unconditioned and when I was 14 me and my mom started having sex with each other. She taught me not to care about what everyone else thinks. It was a natural thing and it happened.
BW: How long did it go on?
Spoons: Until she died when I was 19.
BW: How do you think it impacted you?
Spoons: It made me respect people a lot more. I don't know how that happened, but it gave me a lot of empathy towards women because I'd always hangout with her and her friends. My mom was a bartender at a strip club when I was growing up. All of her friends were strippers, and hookers, and crackheads, and heroin junkies.
I almost feel sorry for everybody because we're all humans. You don't know what people have going on in their heads. Everybody's going through some kind of struggle.
BW: Do you regret the relationship with your mom?
Spoons: Not at all. Never ever. We loved each other beyond belief.